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For some kolmo questions, I use the golfing algorithms created for the challenge Golfing Strings in Fourier.

Is this okay to do? Does this constitute as cheating?

Some examples:

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    – user45941
    Sep 8, 2016 at 20:55

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I don't think these answers are cheating, exactly. I don't believe they break any current site rules.

That being said, I'll probably downvote them when I see them. They're just not interesting or useful to the site in my opinion. The program that generates it might be interesting (and indeed, I upvoted issacg's program when he posted it), but I don't think that extends to the output itself.

Of course, this applies to the straight "copy/paste" answers. If all you did was copy the desired output into a script and paste the output as an answer, I don't want to reward that with rep. If you're manually golfing it before or after running the script and making tweaks to optimize it, that's a different story. If that's the case, say that in the post.

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    \$\begingroup\$ I'm inclined to agree with you \$\endgroup\$
    – Beta Decay
    Sep 8, 2016 at 19:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ Maybe this is a case for community wiki? (Please tell me why this is wrong) \$\endgroup\$
    – Blue
    Sep 8, 2016 at 19:29
  • \$\begingroup\$ I'm not even sure I'd be interested in it as CW. It's just a copy/paste job that I could do myself. Anything interesting is going to be happening within the program, not in the output. \$\endgroup\$
    – Geobits
    Sep 8, 2016 at 19:30
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    \$\begingroup\$ @muddyfish I don't think so. \$\endgroup\$ Sep 8, 2016 at 19:32
  • \$\begingroup\$ Agreed, and related. \$\endgroup\$
    – DJMcMayhem
    Sep 8, 2016 at 20:19
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If you can do that and get competitive solutions, it's a sign that the question should be closed as a duplicate of a standard question (probably the rickroll) because it isn't adding anything new to the site.

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    \$\begingroup\$ Alternatively as a dupe of Hello, World since for that one automated metagolfers are most likely to give optimal results (whereas the rick roll actually contains some interesting structure that can be exploited). \$\endgroup\$ Sep 8, 2016 at 13:42
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    \$\begingroup\$ Although of course, just because Fourier doesn't have any viable approach apart from using its automated metagolf results that doesn't necessarily mean that it won't be an interesting challenge with novel approaches in other languages. \$\endgroup\$ Sep 8, 2016 at 13:43
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    \$\begingroup\$ I was assuming that automated metagolfers would be able to exploit interesting structure - perhaps tunnel vision resulting from having written one which does. \$\endgroup\$ Sep 8, 2016 at 13:50
  • \$\begingroup\$ I never got one which did that for the Starry metagolf challenge for example. \$\endgroup\$ Sep 8, 2016 at 13:56
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    \$\begingroup\$ Not always. I used this brain-flak metagolfer for my Hello, World! answer, and it still took a lot of work to golf it down. \$\endgroup\$
    – DJMcMayhem
    Sep 8, 2016 at 16:34

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