# [programming-puzzle]: Isn't it obvious?

The tag seems a bit useless given we're called 'Programming Puzzles and Code-Golf'. It seems to be used when no other objective winning criteria is used and sometimes used in conjunction with other winning criteria tags.

15 out of the 29 questions in the tag are closed and of the remaining 14, 7 of them have other criterion that suggest the winner. This leaves a total of 7 valid tags.

I propose we remove the tag from questions with another winning objective tag and on the other questions replace it with or possible add as a synonym of

• I think it'd be even better to just take "Programming Puzzles" out of our name, but aside from that, another alternative is to blacklist programming-puzzle. It's actually quite normal to blacklist tags that have the site's name in them (i.e., christianity on Christianity.SE, or bicycles on Bicycles.SE]). – El'endia Starman Aug 8 '16 at 11:34
• From the wiki A programming puzzle includes a goal, a partially completed program, and rules outlining how the program can be modified. The program is specifically designed to make achieving the goal difficult. An answer to a programming puzzle takes the program and modifies it only in ways specified in the rules, so that the goal is achieved. This is very clearly distinct from code challenge and golf. Just because the latter tends to be easier to do and more popular is no reason to make the former off-topic. – James Aug 8 '16 at 12:43
• @DJMcMayhem Ok then, the tag is horribly misused – Blue Aug 8 '16 at 14:16
• That does seem like a good reason to consider removing the tag where it is misapplied. – trichoplax Aug 8 '16 at 14:59
• I suspect the name "programming puzzles" is contributing to the misplaced coding help questions where the poster is "puzzled about programming". – xnor Aug 9 '16 at 8:23
• @xnor Then why not tell people to post that on Stack Overflow in the tag info? – haykam Aug 20 '16 at 16:29
• @Peanut If such people read tag info, they would already have read something that tells them that this is a site for coding contests and not programming help. – xnor Aug 20 '16 at 17:18