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Presolving Golf Questions

I notice some users are posting questions where they are immediately posting a long-standing (or just extremely well golfed) solution to the problem. On StackOverflow posting your own questions has ...
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Should there be defaults for tiebreakers in tag wikis?

In the code-golf tag wiki, there are defaults for scoring if not specified (in bytes). Recently I have seen some questions what to do in case of a tie. My proposal is to make this a default in the tag ...
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Proposal to lock the Language Showcase as historically significant

I recently revisited the following classic challenge: Showcase your language one vote at a time. The gist of the challenge is as follows: An answer is a set of program snippets, each with a unique ...
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A Modest Proposal: the [popularity-contest] tag

Over at this question, the OP doesn't want to use an objective winning criterion like code brevity, but instead wants to accept the highest-voted answer. To me, that smells like a popularity contest. ...
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What should be the rules for questions on this site

This answer on MSO contains a list of rules that code golf challenges on Stackoverflow should follow. I think it would be a good idea to discuss which of those rules we want to adopt for this site. ...
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Old Languages with new implementations [duplicate]

I was hoping to answer a question using a particular cellular automaton that was defined 17 years ago (before the question was asked) but for which I am unable to find a free interpreter on the ...
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Running PHP with `-r` instead of code tags

Based on this manual, there is a -r option that allows you to run PHP code on the command line without specifying the code tags, ...
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Do all challenges have to be answered with code?

We have a tag fastest-algorithm and we've had it for a while now. Submissions are scored based on the time complexity of the algorithm. This means that the actual implementation has no effect on the ...
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Are theoretically incorrect answers allowed if it's (near) impossible to find incorrect inputs?

The main motivation for my question is hash functions. Let's take an example challenge (although here's a real challenge): Print 42 if the input is "the answer to life the universe and everything", ...
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Hiatus for Fortnightly Challenges

It's currently not looking good for the fortnightly challenges. Of the last four challenges only one was actually posted. And the current one doesn't seem to be quite on track either. It seems that ...
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Is editor golf on-topic?

We've recently received a Vim golf question that's sparked a bit of controversy as to whether Vim golf, or "editor golf" in general, is on-topic here. Should Vim, Emacs, or editor golf in general be ...
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Objective computational challenges without “code”

I recently posed a question about attempting to ruin Lepton's attempt to compress a JPEG. I've done other file-format-type questions before, to generate a WAV, defeat LZMA compression, etc, in part ...
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Should language-specific code golf challenges be explicitly disallowed?

In light of a recent code golf challenge in which the specification restricts participation to JavaScript, I think it's time we revisited making a hard rule about language-specific golfs. We may ...
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What outputs should I allow for decision problems?

I'm looking for opinions on what outputs to allow as the Yes and No outputs on decision-problem challenges. The goal isn't to make a policy, but to help with a decision I often have to make when ...
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C# Lambdas as Answers to questions asking for a Function

Edit: I've broken the proposal out into an answer, but left the examples where they are. Please do not consider a vote for this question to constitute support for the proposal Apologies in advance, ...
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Are questions in which no answer is the best allowed?

I have seen things like "This is not about finding the language with the shortest approach for prime testing, this is about finding the shortest approach in every language. Therefore, no answer will ...
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How are bytes counted in assembly?

I was told bytes in assembly are counted by the byte of machine code. Is that true? If so what steps should be taken to correctly get bytes?
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How should we handle Excel answers with drag-down formulas? [duplicate]

This is a very grey area, because while excel is fun to enter, and play around with, often times it's seen as a pseudo-programming language. In Excel, one can drag-down formulas to automatically match ...
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Line break formats and character numbers [duplicate]

I've recently saw someone, who says that their code is 350 characters long. Problem It can vary depending on platform. Code length compared across various platforms Windows: 371 characters ...
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Non-puzzle, but more meta-ish questions about code-golf that aren't about using the site

My impression is that meta sites are for questions about using the site. I asked this question to test out a meta-ish type question that was not a puzzle itself, but not about how to use the site ...
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“Be Nice” applies to off-topic questions too

For whatever reason, PPCG tends to get a lot of off-topic questions, generally about code-troubleshooting. Maybe it's because our help-center is inaccurate. Or maybe it's simply because we're a large-...
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PPCG-specific Mobile App

See a list of feature requests here (On hold) Basically, I was wondering if anyone could develop a mobile app which would serve as a browser for PPCG. Maybe something along the lines of the pre-...
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Problems Not Yet Challenged

Sometimes when I get the urge to post a new challenge, I have trouble finding a notable* problem that has not yet been solved upon which to base my challenge (I'm not very creative). I thought it ...
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We need to talk about Chat

I would start this post with something along the lines of "without naming names", but I think it's time to pinpoint the issues we currently face in chat and take action. This is a follow-up to The ...
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What does “taking no input” mean for a program?

Fixed output challenges usually state that the program "must take no input". I usually interpret this as "The standard input is empty", but after thinking about this, there are actually several valid ...
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2016 Moderator Election Q&A - Questionnaire

In connection with the moderator elections, we are holding a Q&A thread for the candidates. Questions collected from an earlier thread have been compiled into this one, which shall now serve as ...
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Introducing a New Golf Language

So over the past week I've developed Just Another Interpreted Stack-Base Language (JAISBaL for short), and I had a few questions: Is there any reason JAISBaL would be illegal to use for the general <...
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Are we allowed to use empty input we won't use when no input is asked (regarding functions)?

Let's say a code-golf challenge is asking for a program without arguments or function without parameters. Are we allowed to take an empty parameter instead we won't use anywhere? As example: In Java ...
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Can I win with a version of a language that didn't exist when the challenge was posted? [duplicate]

This is a follow up to Can I ever answer with a language invented after the challenge was posted? It seems to be well established that you can post answers using a new language, but you can't win. ...
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When to accept answers [duplicate]

What guidelines should we have for accepting answers? See our page on area51 This site is different to other SE sites, because it's almost never clear that the best answer won't be improved upon. ...
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Let's customise the “How to Answer” pop-up

It was recently suggested in a comment to point at our standard loopholes (and potentially other implicit community rules) next to the Answer text area (similar to the How to ask? sidebar when writing ...
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Are control characters and ANSI escape codes allowed in output?

Recently, I had people go crazy with escape codes on one of my ASCII art challenges. This x86 machine code answer was able to save some bytes by throwing a few colour codes at the console. At some ...
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Is there a place I can place my so-close-but-not-quite answer?

I'm asking in general, but in my specific case I was working on an answer for Programming a Pristine World and got $><<"%c"*5%%w(w o r l d). The fatal flaw ...
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Should bonuses be allowed for [code-golf] questions?

Prompted by a discussion between Peter Taylor and myself, I'd like to solicit the community's opinion on the following issue: Should awarding score bonuses for extra features disqualify a challenge ...
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Let's talk about chat again

Around March of last year, chat users started becoming really annoyed by the level of noise in chat and became motivated enough to speak out about it, which lead to The state of chat being posted. ...
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The line between art and programming

I really like this question but I know there are complaints of it being more about art than programming. I'd like to hear both sides of this and see what is in the best interest of the community and ...
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Tour to Improve the Discoverability of Old Challenges

We've got some pretty great challenges here. However, after a month or so, challenges get little to no activity. Since we aren't a Q&A site, we rarely get traffic via searches. I would love it ...
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Is there simple example or demo to show how to play with this community?

I read questions at this community for while and feel they are funny:) But I really don't know what the questions are playing with, especially the meaning behind the title:( I have no idea what they ...
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What qualifies as malicious code?

We've decided by community consensus that challenges asking for malicious code are off topic. But the question remains: At what point do we consider code to be malicious? Most of the time it's ...
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What are some functions that golfing languages tend NOT to have, or do worse than conventional languages?

I'd like to write challenges that encourage people away from golf languages, and into a more competitive space. what are some things that golf languages tend to not do, or do not as well compared to ...
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Is the empty string an acceptable decimal representation of 0?

In a recent question for which the correct output for 1 is zero, an answer output ; i.e, nothing. Is this an acceptable base-10 ...
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Is a quine that reads a function's source a cheating quine?

So, in the last couple months, I have seen several (especially JavaScript) quines told that they are cheating because they stringify a function. Accordingly, I thought that was the standard - it's ...
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We Have a Messy Sandbox

It may be just me, but it seems kind of bothersome that we have 500-odd undeleted answers in the Sandbox. Many of them have already been posted for real but not edited to reflect that. More (I think ...
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Examples of well presented questions

Sometimes a question is underspecified or ambiguous. Other times a question is fully specified but very long and dry to read. In between there are questions which seem perfect - all the information is ...
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(How) Are we going to get out of beta?

Our Area 51 Page shows the number of questions as the biggest issue, with number of visits as also less than ideal. Can we do something about this? What?!
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Can code-golf answers be too slow?

This answer is a fairly extreme example. For the largest input it would create an array with 1.048576e+26 elements which is not going to fit in RAM anytime soon (maybe not even physically possible). ...
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4 options for the sandbox: Main or Meta & Community Wiki or not

Following Peter Taylor's comments that pointed out that this question (now deleted) is not giving meaningful voting results with only 2 options, here are all 4 options as answers so that I'm no longer ...
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Should point-free function expressions be allowed when a function is asked for?

Should an expression evaluating to a function count as a function for the purpose of providing a solution when a function is asked for? An earlier question on meta seems to indicate a consensus that ...
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Creating new language. Would it be legal?

Today with friend of mine discussed about code golf, I want to ask your opinion about the thing we discussed about. Would it be legal if I create my own programming (actually scripting) language with ...
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Should we increase our post character limit to allow substantial stack snippets?

Calvin's Hobbies posted on Mother Meta about increasing the character limit for posts across the Stack Exchange network. This answer shows that it is possible to increase the limit from the standard ...

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