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What's our policy on tags?

There are a lot of questions now that could be tagged: "sudoku", "sorting", "maze" etc. Should we tag them? What is the current policy on tagging? Tag everything that appears thrice or more? Tag at-...
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Is tagging a question with only [code-golf] acceptable? Should the tag be blacklisted?

code-golf is currently used on 40 of 62 questions. Like other sites I've seen launched, such a tag allows users to throw it on their questions without having to bother thinking of a better, more ...
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How to avoid executing malicious obfuscated code?

On a related thread to this question, what steps can one take to avoid executing obfuscated malicious code (in the unlikely case someone sees fit to post some in a solution. Is it best to just avoid ...
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Should obfuscated JavaScript be allowed?

I had posted an "obfuscated rickroll in Greasemonkey" challenge, which I have deleted in response to Mike Bethany's comment that answers to the question would be of primary use to "spammers." In ...
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Should the programming language be Turing-Complete? [duplicate]

The question appeared on chat. For the Hello, world! problem Uryyb, jbeyq! is a solution in rot13, but rot13 is not a general purpose language. Should these ...
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Is [language-agnostic] an appropriate tag?

Maybe I'm overgeneralizing, but it seems to me like if we make [language-agnostic] a tag, we're going to have an awful lot of questions with it. I'm pretty sure ...
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How to go with up/downvotes for answers on golf or other challenges?

This still poses a bit of a problem for me so far and I have experimented a bit (apologies to those I downvoted in those experiments). On Stack Overflow it's pretty clear what warrants an up- or ...
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Rep points for questions [duplicate]

Right now we're using the standard +5/-2 for questions and +10/-2 for answers. However, this site is different from the trilogy and most other SE sites: coming up with a question generally takes more ...
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A Modest Proposal: the [popularity-contest] tag

Over at this question, the OP doesn't want to use an objective winning criterion like code brevity, but instead wants to accept the highest-voted answer. To me, that smells like a popularity contest. ...
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Presolving Golf Questions

I notice some users are posting questions where they are immediately posting a long-standing (or just extremely well golfed) solution to the problem. On StackOverflow posting your own questions has ...
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Is it possible to reduce the character limit from 30

I've already had a couple of golf answers that were less than 30 characters - even with the character count included. Is it possible and sensible to reduce that limit to 20 or 25 perhaps?
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What details should always be given for a code golf task?

Related: For Code Golf, how do you deal with languages without a traditional print/echo statements? Related: What programming language should we consider for the code-golf solution ? Related: Use of ...
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We need something novel to bring in the hordes

I'm concerned that after a period of beta, as golf "professionals" leave for their regular sites. We currently don't offer that much value for them. I'd like to use this as a place to discuss novel ...
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On GolfScript and language bigotry

I'd like to receive people's opinions on languages "designed for golfing", such as GolfScript and FlogScript. However, since there are no FlogScript submissions on the site as of current writing, this ...
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Why was I downvoted?

I don't care about the rep, and I know that downvotes can be somewhat random and sometimes undeserved, but In the early stages of a site, it's easy to go against the rules without knowing, so I would ...
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Shebangs; yes or no?

It's only ~20 chars but in code golf, they all count. I guess whether shebangs should be included could be up to the individual question askers, but I think we need some kind of convention. ...
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What should the policy on improving or incorporating other people's solutions be?

Sometimes, when looking at other people's golfing attempts, you see a trick that will improve your own one, or you might see a glaring improvement that is not entirely obvious to OP. For instance, in ...
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Picking an answer

This is one area where I'm having trouble envisioning how this site is supposed to work as an SE. I suppose wrt the golfing there's an objective criteria--least characters. But for puzzles there's ...
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Resolving number of characters and languages

Certain languages can do things with fewer characters/functions than others. How does this factor into the code golf process? Isn't this a bit too subjective when measuring how quickly a problem is ...
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Is the number of characters really all this site is about?

So, code golf is about writing solutions in the smallest amount characters. But, my question is more around the overall goal of the site. Is it really just about number of characters or about ...
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Tags regarding difficulty

I think that we should tag puzzles (or whatever) with an estimated difficulty tag. That way people who want a real challenge can find it and those who are just starting out can find ones they might ...
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Golf versus non-golf questions

This question raised the issue of questions that do not make mention of being golf questions. Sometimes answerers assume it's a golfing question and golf it, leading others to follow suit and then a ...
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Moderator nominations

According to this post, three temp moderators will be selected in about 2 weeks. Who would like to nominate themselves?
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Should character counts be mandatory?

In code golfing questions it is tedious to copy-paste everyone's solution to see how long it is. Should having character counts for each submission be mandatory? There are various examples of this ...
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Tab characters in code golf answers

This answer made me realise we should standardise on how to distinguish literal tabs in code from space characters. This becomes crucial in optimising the length of Python code, where 1xtab and ...
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For Code Golf, how do you deal with languages without a traditional print/echo statements? [duplicate]

JavaScript comes to mind as a language without a traditional outputting mechanism. In this instance, document.write() is suggested, but its specific to the browser,...
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Auto CW limit (number of answers)

It would seem to me that with code golf, it will be much easier for legit questions to reach the auto conversion to Community Wiki due to the number of answers (multiple languages, multiple attempts ...
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Should golf questions be a CW and why?

I thought CW was for making only 1 answer per language, but on SO I saw again and again, that question had two or more answers of the same language. Should we keep CW-checkbox tradition? If it needs ...
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Non-puzzle, but more meta-ish questions about code-golf that aren't about using the site

My impression is that meta sites are for questions about using the site. I asked this question to test out a meta-ish type question that was not a puzzle itself, but not about how to use the site ...
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Code golf answers that aren't golfing attempts

This answer clearly wasn't golfed, but is still a valid solution to the problem. How should we handle such answers? Should we down-vote them for being long? Should a mod delete them for being off-...
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Use of built-in functions and libraries in Code Golfs

This answer used a built-in Python function to solve the question in a very short amount of code. Should we allow it and let people not up-vote, or should we police library abuse to some degree? If ...
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C/C++ golfing: Should undefined behaviour be allowed? [duplicate]

This question on SO raised some comments about using undefined behaviour in C/C++ golfing. Should we require that solutions follow the standard? If we do, we could promote down-voting of solutions ...
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Will golf and puzzle questions migrate here from SO?

As far as I remember, one of (unstrict, as we can see) Area51 rules was that we will not create sites, witch may took part of SO's audience. For example, by this rule Ruby.stackexchange was declined. ...
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Should non-standard compiler flags be included in character counts? [duplicate]

In some languages using a compiler flag might significantly shorten the source file, by making the compilation command longer. Should we make inclusion of the character count of the flag in the total ...
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What are the policies for threads relating to Facebook Puzzles, Project Euler, UVa, SPOJ, etc.?

Related question. Questions from Facebook Puzzles, Project Euler, UVa, SPOJ, and the like do not expire, unlike Google Code Jam or TopCoder. Therefore, in order to be able to discuss such problems ...
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Is [code-challenge] necessary?

Isn't code-challenge going to be applicable to all questions? Therefore, shouldn't we delete it and related tags?
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What input methods should we allow for Code Golfs? [duplicate]

Should we define rules on how input can be fed into programs? This question on SO allowed for any input method, which resulted in answers which ripped off the question by doing the computation in ...
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What programming language should we consider for the code-golf solution ? [closed]

If we want to prevent having ridiculous answer for Code-Golf with esoteric language that are made up just for the challenge, we need to define what are the acceptable programming language. The ...
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What should be the rules for questions on this site

This answer on MSO contains a list of rules that code golf challenges on Stackoverflow should follow. I think it would be a good idea to discuss which of those rules we want to adopt for this site. ...
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Site title and domain

The area51 proposal was titled "Code Golf & Programming Challenges" and the discussion on area51 even nudged towards making it just "Programming Challenges" so that it has wider scope. Yet the ...
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How should our FAQ look like?

How should our FAQ look like? One suggestion per answer.
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Are questions from Google Code Jam, TopCoder, etc. on-topic?

The original proposal is for "Code Golf and Programming Puzzles". I think this suggests that discussion of questions from programming contests should indeed be on-topic---as long as they're not ...
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